tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3332356.post4152832681427321727..comments2024-02-23T09:57:39.102+01:00Comments on Leftbanker: Anti-Government vs Democracy: Part Ileftbankerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13990365189051313153noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3332356.post-64242539737224441842011-12-01T13:56:30.257+01:002011-12-01T13:56:30.257+01:00That was me, trying to use an aol name but it igno...That was me, trying to use an aol name but it ignored me...DeniseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3332356.post-29530137943039278052011-12-01T13:55:38.900+01:002011-12-01T13:55:38.900+01:00The democrats are doing a great job of keeping tha...The democrats are doing a great job of keeping that serfdom going with the way they treat the minorities,so don't go putting that on Conservatives alone. <br />Tell me what was good about an engineering firm getting 2 billion in stimulus money and then killing 2000 jobs? Or tell me about how extending unemployment keeps anyone current in their fields, but rather creates a bigger entitlement mindset...Tell me how the latest infusion of cash will save your beloved Spain, and the rest of Europe? <br />Instead of calling conservatives stupid, answer the questions instead of ignoring them. Tell me how hyperinflation isn't going to happen while you champion more and more government intrusion as if they know best how to spend the money we pay. Do you vote absentee, pay US taxes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3332356.post-84510516584824929382011-11-09T13:30:02.225+01:002011-11-09T13:30:02.225+01:00I'm not ready to concede that to some vague an...<i>I'm not ready to concede that to some vague and silly, and ultimately destructive, notion that "less government is better." Show me concrete examples.</i><br /><br />Conservatives have lots of examples...all of them from the 19th century. Most right-wingers are too stupid to realize the correlation while the select few who actually control the party want nothing better than to return to the good old days of monarchy and serfdom.leftbankerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990365189051313153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3332356.post-51293516495123636582011-11-09T02:02:44.558+01:002011-11-09T02:02:44.558+01:00Yeah. "Less government" is holy to the P...Yeah. "Less government" is holy to the Platinum-credit-card gated community drone until someone pisses on his Escalade while it's parked at the strip mall down the road where he gets discount gas and finds an immigrant to mow his lawn. But then if he calls the cops and they don't show up in 10 minutes, apeshit. <br /><br />Damn. More and more I miss the dirty dangerous NYC I grew up in. I blame American on the burbs.SarahHeartburnhttp://sarahheartburn.tumblr.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3332356.post-41319766117563398752011-11-08T19:14:52.902+01:002011-11-08T19:14:52.902+01:00Mexico is a country with limited government, and t...Mexico is a country with limited government, and the chaos caused by this is readily apparent. I think a huge aspect of being conservative is a complete lack of imagination, such as truly imagining a society built on their narrow and myopic view, and how chaotic, one-sided, and perilous such a society would be. It would be almost feudal. While I heartily agree government beurocracy can be ponderous and bloated, there are still very vital and necessary functions that I only trust my government to fulfill. It is the only power structure to which I have purchase. I'm not ready to concede that to some vague and silly, and ultimately destructive, notion that "less government is better." Show me concrete examples.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3332356.post-89404671250450472152011-11-08T14:30:37.437+01:002011-11-08T14:30:37.437+01:00I sort of wanted to confine this argument to the m...I sort of wanted to confine this argument to the merits of government regarding urban planning. Show me a city worth living in and I'll show you a city with an effective government that restrains the worst aspects of unchecked growth. Compare Seattle or Portland to a shit-hole like Dallas, for example.<br /><br /><i>That government is best which governs least.</i><br /><br />And sorry, stupid shit like this doesn't even make sense with even the slightest examination. Why don't we just have no government at all? No roads, no schools, no sewage, nothing. According to conservatives and libertarians (conservatives' idiot cousins) this would be paradise.leftbankerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990365189051313153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3332356.post-51534203881211263812011-11-08T13:35:10.550+01:002011-11-08T13:35:10.550+01:00Secondly, can we please bring ridicule to this arg...Secondly, can we please bring ridicule to this argument about what is and is not "Constitutional." If you are an American you MUST have taken a civics or government class and learned the very basic concept that the Constitution is an "elastic" document as defined in section 8 clause 18, which basically grants Congress to pass laws that are "necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers..." In other words, Congress can pass a law<br />like the Affordable Healthcare Act, which is necessary and proper to ensure all Americans have access to affordable health coverage. Because before this Act, the system was hugely expensive and inefficient, moreover it denied nearly 47 million citizens access to health insurance. Sounds necessary and proper to me, more so than two fucking wars we didn't need to fight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3332356.post-40779335605018324692011-11-08T13:14:48.115+01:002011-11-08T13:14:48.115+01:00Wasteful, right, so let's cut the defense and ...Wasteful, right, so let's cut the defense and intelligence budgets by two-thirds and we will eliminate a vast majority of your "intrusive, wasteful, bloated, and statist arm of the government. But then conservatives would crap themselves and eat their own shit before that would happen. And I believe that is the fundamental impasse we have between the right and left. I, a liberal, think the hundreds of billions--or trillion or two or three--wasted on the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan was HUGELY wasteful, bloated, blah blah blah. Wouldn't you agree?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3332356.post-31117757749571877982011-11-08T12:55:05.908+01:002011-11-08T12:55:05.908+01:00There's a difference between anti-government, ...There's a difference between anti-government, i.e. anarchist who are generally associated with the left, and anti-overly intrusive, wasteful, bloated, statist government. Most conservatives believe government has a valid purpose but has long exceeded that purpose as authorized by the Constitution.<br /><br />That government is best which governs least. HDTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com